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blackbird15
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Not to me. If BB and Raven kissed, I'd scream with happiness and joyfulness. I've always wanted those two to get together.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:49 pm
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Same here. It's all a matter of preference.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:12 pm
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:52 pm
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It IS, for you like BB/Terra (even though the evidence shows you that comic Terra is dead & that TV Terra terminated the relationship she had with the changeling) and I like BB/Rae (which is original comic canon [from New Titans issue #30 to the present-day] and was hinted within TV episodes and Titans GO! issue #42, no matter how much BB/Terra fans wish it weren't so).
It--like all pairing matters--IS a matter of personal preference (i.e. one's own opinion), for just like you and I disagree over who Beast Boy should be with, others argue over other pairs. For instance, Sonic fans fight over who the blue blur should be with, whether it be Breezie (in AoStH episode "Lovesick Sonic"; she ended up with Robotnik Junior in the end), Mina (in a couple of Archie Sonic comic issues; she ended up with road manager Ash in the end), Amy (implied in Sonic X & in a 1992 nonsensical manga whose non-Sega-approved canon was retconned for the current Sega-approved continuities; although Amy did crush on Sonic for the longest time, it appears as though this behavior is about to finally end in the upcoming DS Sonic game with Amy getting a boyfriend--Dexter--who's closer to her own mental and physical age [for recall that Amy wished herself older, but wasn't mentally stable to handle being with Sonic like she wanted]), or Sally (in SatAM, Archie Sonic comics, & the Sega World Sonic LIVE! stage show; Sally's relationship with Sonic is not only the longest-running relationship either character has had, but it also is the one more true to human reality in that human-esque emotions come into play, causing a short break-up between the two, only to have the two recently reconcile and possibly rekindle their romance, thereby bringing to light any of the three ending futures of the Sonic franchise [all of which have Sonic & Sally together, married, and with children]).
Anyway, the whole point of this is that--no matter who the characters (in this case, Beast Boy & Sonic) get with--shouldn't we be happy for them? XD
 
 
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I for one think it's a pity that Raven and BB did not kiss in TTG! because they clearly grew closer together as the series went on and after episodes like "Spellbound" and "The Beast Within", a kiss would have been amusing (even if it had involved mind control).
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:40 am
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| ShadowStar wrote: | | I for one think it's a pity that Raven and BB did not kiss in TTG! because they clearly grew closer together as the series went on and after episodes like "Spellbound" and "The Beast Within", a kiss would have been amusing (even if it had involved mind control). |
It would've been interesting, no doubt. XD
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How've things been for everybody? If any of our friends want, they could join up here just as we have. ^_^
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:36 am
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| wwfpooh wrote: | | ShadowStar wrote: | | I for one think it's a pity that Raven and BB did not kiss in TTG! because they clearly grew closer together as the series went on and after episodes like "Spellbound" and "The Beast Within", a kiss would have been amusing (even if it had involved mind control). |
It would've been interesting, no doubt. XD
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So true. It'd be nice to see them kiss...
...Or at least dating or caught holding hands or something...
Imagine, Rae and BB caught in the hallway of the tower holding hands...imagine the reaction of their friends! XD The thought of it makes me laugh.
I also remember reading the issue 'Love is a Battlefield', and when Star asked if BB and Rae wanted to help make valentines, they both had something planned, so in order to predict what they were going to do, I just said to my sisters: " Oh my gosh, BB and Rae both have somewhere to go on the same day, so they're probably planning a date!!!"
Thats's my oppinion.
Also, I found a guide to all the BBxRae 'moments' in the show on a website called 'the-bbxrae-shrine.net' It's a really cool website.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:31 pm
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| blackbird15 wrote: | | Also, I found a guide to all the BBxRae 'moments' in the show on a website called 'the-bbxrae-shrine.net' It's a really cool website. |
Ugh, I actually cannot STAND that site anymore. I used to love it when I was first into TT {my first couplings were Rob/Star and BB/Rae - where did I go wrong on that last one xD} but now...now I just despise it. The people on there have no respect for the writers other than when they have an episode like 'Spellbound' or 'The Beast Within'. They bitch and moan and whine that Beast Boy didn't savagely make out with Raven on 'The End Part 3' - despite there being logic or reasoning or, in fact, anything that would even suggest that Beast Boy was so out of characterly start face mauling Raven. I sort of lost all respect for that site when they started saying that 'you could replace the writers of the show with monkeys because they are so crap' - or something along those lines. T
They also seem to dislike this forum for some odd reason {the mods here are not unproffesional - nor are they vulgar words which I shall not repeat *stabs*} and believe all non 'BB/Rae' shippers are stupid morons who hate the pairing solely for the fact that they hate Beast Boy. *sigh* I could give you a million reasons that have nothing to do with Beast Boy.
But on the topic at hand.
BB/Rae kiss in TTGo...well despite for the fact that it will never happen {thank you comic writers/artists/whoever} I would hate it if it happened. Nothing against the fans...I just don't see the supposed chemistry. Hell - Rob/Rae is more likely than BB/Rae.
BB is soooo Raven's annoying lil bro XD
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:00 pm
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| Excuse me, but Hoegee said clearly that the two "fight like a married couple". That's hardly how siblings bicker. Plus, there's his comment that "Raven only hits Beast Boy out of love". Granted, there are different types of love, but given moments in the show (Nevermore, Beast Within, Spellbound, etc.), the aforementioned comments made by the head writer who created all the character interaction between the two (and who himself likes odd combos, which would include BB/Rae), & the fact that it is comic canon (whilst the original comics made them official [moments during The New Teen Titans era, the issue of Life or Death, the battle with the Sons of Trigon, and ongoing presently], even Titans GO! alluded to it as a high possibility, because not only did Raven's affectionate emoticlone cling to Beast Boy the most out of all the Titans encountered, but when the two came face-to-face with the villain Phobia, the "nightmare" of the two being together for Valentine's Day & other such holidays was supposed to reflect REAL feelings. I mean, you would think that Raven would've learned from Fear Itself that denying feelings is a bad thing!) would all disagree with you. But really, this belongs in the couples thread.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:59 am
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| wwfpooh wrote: | | Excuse me, but Hoegee said clearly that the two "fight like a married couple". That's hardly how siblings bicker. Plus, there's his comment that "Raven only hits Beast Boy out of love". Granted, there are different types of love, but given moments in the show (Nevermore, Beast Within, Spellbound, etc.), the aforementioned comments made by the head writer who created all the character interaction between the two (and who himself likes odd combos, which would include BB/Rae), & the fact that it is comic canon (whilst the original comics made them official [moments during The New Teen Titans era, the issue of Life or Death, the battle with the Sons of Trigon, and ongoing presently], even Titans GO! alluded to it as a high possibility, because not only did Raven's affectionate emoticlone cling to Beast Boy the most out of all the Titans encountered, but when the two came face-to-face with the villain Phobia, the "nightmare" of the two being together for Valentine's Day & other such holidays was supposed to reflect REAL feelings. I mean, you would think that Raven would've learned from Fear Itself that denying feelings is a bad thing!) would all disagree with you. But really, this belongs in the couples thread. |
I fight with my sister. I fight with my friends. I fight with my guy friends. I get told 'you and [such and such] fight like an old married couple'.
Does it mean I'm going to start mauling said persons face off?
No. It. Does. Not.
Exactly, 'nightmares. As in 'oh god did that just happen, that scared the hell out of me, 'nightmares'. Not, 'sex me up because I had a dream about you', 'nightmares'.
And as for the comics...BB and Raven were not a freaking couple during the era the show is based on. Sure, they may have been friiiiiiiiiieeeeeendssss and BB may have made a few lude/friendshippy/lovable comments towards her...but, guess what? He made the same. damn. comments to every muthafucking girl who passed him by. My bloody guy friends do the same. Does it mean they love me and want me inside them to make sparkly rainbows of joy? No. It means, they are god damn flirty !
*chokes self*
I'm not even going to get into the freaking argument because I know you're gonna disreguard the points and completely ignore them and go off on a tangent about 'Oh they were so close in the comics, or 'but it's true wuvvvvv' - or something else among that stupidity.
I respect other peoples couples - hell, I ship nearly every couple except BB&Rae and Rob&Rae. I ship KF/Terra for crimenys sake! But there's just something about arguements that make mountains out of mole hills and stress every. little. point. to the letter 'T' so that the point becomes just so god-damn unbaring that you want to tear apart that very persons face because you're sick of making the same. god. damn. responses. every. god. damn. time.
*exhales*
Meh. -goes-
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| Quoth wrote: | | Does it mean they love me and want me inside them to make sparkly rainbows of joy? |
 That made me laugh.
But thank you Quoth for taking the time out to write that very sensible post. I agree on all points made.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:47 pm
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The problem here though is that BB/Rae doesn't just have fan support. It has support of official writers too (Hoegee liking the interaction the two shared in the show, Torres making moments in TTG, and Johns--and the writers coming after him--making the couple comic canon from #30 to present-day). And it is they who decide things, pairing-related or otherwise.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:59 pm
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| Quoth wrote: | | blackbird15 wrote: | | Also, I found a guide to all the BBxRae 'moments' in the show on a website called 'the-bbxrae-shrine.net' It's a really cool website. |
Ugh, I actually cannot STAND that site anymore. I used to love it when I was first into TT {my first couplings were Rob/Star and BB/Rae - where did I go wrong on that last one xD} but now...now I just despise it. The people on there have no respect for the writers other than when they have an episode like 'Spellbound' or 'The Beast Within'. They bitch and moan and whine that Beast Boy didn't savagely make out with Raven on 'The End Part 3' - despite there being logic or reasoning or, in fact, anything that would even suggest that Beast Boy was so out of characterly start face mauling Raven. I sort of lost all respect for that site when they started saying that 'you could replace the writers of the show with monkeys because they are so crap' - or something along those lines. T
They also seem to dislike this forum for some odd reason {the mods here are not unproffesional - nor are they vulgar words which I shall not repeat *stabs*} |
...Um? 
I honestly don't remember comments being made against the writers of the animated series JUST because there wasn't some huge make-out scene--we've had our fair share of gung-ho trolls on our site, and I only know of one member who isn't a huge fan of the animated series, but it certainly isn't a sentiment shared by the majority of our members; I'd appreciate it if you didn't make blanket statements about "them."
Also, "they" are a people who were sick or afraid of being attacked for liking a fictional cartoon pairing--most avoid this forum because of a comment made by a staffer here I still respect greatly, that "all BBxRae shippers should be put out on the street to be drugged and shot."
| Quote: | | and believe all non 'BB/Rae' shippers are stupid morons who hate the pairing solely for the fact that they hate Beast Boy. *sigh* I could give you a million reasons that have nothing to do with Beast Boy. |
Huh buh duh wha?
Where did that come from? That's like saying all vegetarians agree with the ideals of PETA--kind of an extreme example you put out there; I haven't even heard of something like that being said since The Great Shipping Wars... y'know, back when the show was still ongoing?
I'd feel thoroughly embarrassed on behalf of the site if I didn't have a hunch you stumbled across a few of the noobishly impassioned posts from years ago.
You don't have to be a fan of the site, but don't go out furthering stereotypes with a few poor examples from the past.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:04 am
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| Dancing Banana wrote: | | Quoth wrote: | | blackbird15 wrote: | | Also, I found a guide to all the BBxRae 'moments' in the show on a website called 'the-bbxrae-shrine.net' It's a really cool website. |
Ugh, I actually cannot STAND that site anymore. I used to love it when I was first into TT {my first couplings were Rob/Star and BB/Rae - where did I go wrong on that last one xD} but now...now I just despise it. The people on there have no respect for the writers other than when they have an episode like 'Spellbound' or 'The Beast Within'. They bitch and moan and whine that Beast Boy didn't savagely make out with Raven on 'The End Part 3' - despite there being logic or reasoning or, in fact, anything that would even suggest that Beast Boy was so out of characterly start face mauling Raven. I sort of lost all respect for that site when they started saying that 'you could replace the writers of the show with monkeys because they are so crap' - or something along those lines. T
They also seem to dislike this forum for some odd reason {the mods here are not unproffesional - nor are they vulgar words which I shall not repeat *stabs*} |
...Um?
I honestly don't remember comments being made against the writers of the animated series JUST because there wasn't some huge make-out scene--we've had our fair share of gung-ho trolls on our site, and I only know of one member who isn't a huge fan of the animated series, but it certainly isn't a sentiment shared by the majority of our members; I'd appreciate it if you didn't make blanket statements about "them."
Also, "they" are a people who were sick or afraid of being attacked for liking a fictional cartoon pairing--most avoid this forum because of a comment made by a staffer here I still respect greatly, that "all BBxRae shippers should be put out on the street to be drugged and shot."
| Quote: | | and believe all non 'BB/Rae' shippers are stupid morons who hate the pairing solely for the fact that they hate Beast Boy. *sigh* I could give you a million reasons that have nothing to do with Beast Boy. |
Huh buh duh wha?
Where did that come from? That's like saying all vegetarians agree with the ideals of PETA--kind of an extreme example you put out there; I haven't even heard of something like that being said since The Great Shipping Wars... y'know, back when the show was still ongoing?
I'd feel thoroughly embarrassed on behalf of the site if I didn't have a hunch you stumbled across a few of the noobishly impassioned posts from years ago.
You don't have to be a fan of the site, but don't go out furthering stereotypes with a few poor examples from the past. |
True, I shouldn't have said some of that stuff. I haven't visited that site in god knows how long but that's all I can remember it being like - sorry if i've upset you in any way xD
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Despite the fact that they didn't kiss in TTG and regarding of the dent made in their relationship via the Trouble in Tokyo film (where both characters were just over-exaggerating the stereotypes given to them), as their relationship furthered in the animated series, they did grow closer. And closeness brings about something more...especially since the pairing is quite a popular one.
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In wwfpooh's world, there is no such thing as simple friendship.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:19 am
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| The Wakka Man wrote: | | In wwfpooh's world, there is no such thing as simple friendship. |
Yes there is. But when the pairing is highly popular, was canon in the source material, and is given a chance at being possible, I am all for it.
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| wwfpooh wrote: | | The Wakka Man wrote: | | In wwfpooh's world, there is no such thing as simple friendship. |
Yes there is. But when the pairing is highly popular, |
So are conspiracy theories.
| Quote: | | was canon in the source material, |
Not when the show was created.
| Quote: | | and is given a chance at being possible, |
Where, except in your delusions?
And we all wish you'd stop beating us over the head with that.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:57 am
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| The Wakka Man wrote: | | So are conspiracy theories. |
Yeah, but the former's actually enjoyable to a good percent of the fanbase. XD
| Quote: | | Not when the show was created. |
Yes it was. Remember, at the time of the show's initial airing, the comics had since moved on from the Wolfman/Perez model and were given new life through Johns, who said himself that he planned to bring BB and Rae together from day one, regardless of the cartoon series airing on television.
With Johns at the comics' helm and Rob Hoegee--a writer who likes odd couples, of which BB and Rae could be considered--writing the interaction of the two in the cartoon so that even though "they fight like a married couple" (i.e. they get on each other's nerves, but obviously moreso BB than Rae), Raven does care for the changeling, the pairing would have some support beyond the massive slew of fan projects--fanfics and fanart--regarding it.
Matters would not be helped via the fact that the show itself presented moments that could be construed as something (even when they first met, something was there, because Raven damning herself to five years of stale comedy, but yet, probably being appreciative of his efforts, since a part of her still enjoyed his humor somewhere deep down--as Nevermore showed us--could count as something). Nor did things get better for those against the pairing when Torres chose to write in some scans in TitansGO (the comics based on the show) that showed not only the same playful banter the two had in the show and the fact that--as Every Dog Has His Day (when the Titans thought that the alien dog was a transformed Beast Boy) and The End pt.3 (where Beast Boy gets confirmation that the Raven he knows is back and winds glomping her out of impulse) suggested--the other Titans apparently think nothing odd of the two having awkwardly embarrassing moments (I smell blackmail for "big brother" Cyborg), but also the idea that out of all the Titans Raven's emotions ecountered in issue #42 (Peices of Me), Raven affectionate emoticlone--despite the emoticlone's lewd comments towards Robin about his 1960's garb--was specifically chosen to be with Beast Boy, with Melvin in the background of one panel suggesting quite bluntly that the affectionate emoticlone has it badly for Beast Boy romantically-speaking, as Raven's red-cloaked demonic essence merely looks on at the unfolding scene with a devilish smirk adoring her features and--no doubt--a glint of evil in her eyes.
Considering that Raven's affection is a part of her being (and that--as Nevermore showed us--her happy side enjoys his jokes, her timid side feared that Beast Boy didn't like her, and said unleashed demonic essence lashes out at him when he presses her buttons), this is a huge step in support of the pairing.
Granted, the lavender-cloaked emoticlone would probably be affectionate with any one of the Titans, but why put Beast Boy there? There had to be a reason for it. Certainly, they wouldn't just add in that moment to appease the shipping community if there was nothing behind it somewhere in the back of their minds.
If we throw in Hoegee's other comment dictating that "Raven only hits Beast Boy out of love", we know that it is up to the viewer to decide what that comment actually entails. Now, as much as I love fluffy stories, I seriously wouldn't think that BB and Rae would have a relationship that's lovey-dovey, even if they were together.
Hell, just like it was suggested in another thread that Robin's comment about Starfire being the strongest girl he knows could be covering up a domination fetish, the fact that Beast Boy continues to persist in his mission to get Raven to enjoy life or die trying could suggest that Beast Boy--somewhere deep in his being--is is a machoist.
As a result of this possible notion, there's little to doubt that if the two did get together in the series (as they did in the comics), Raven would be the aggressor in the relationship, the sheer possibility of equal strength between their inner struggles--Raven's rage-filled demonic side and Beast Boy's feral form (which incidentally, only comes out seemingly whenever Raven was in danger)--be damned. | Quote: | | Where, except in your delusions? |
See the long-winded explanations above. All those things are a testamet to its success as a pairing, as is the fact that many still support it, even with the show being done and with the comics now having moved on from making them the central focus. | Quote: | | And we all wish you'd stop beating us over the head with that. |
And I wish you'd stop ragging on me about how you all hate me, but that's not going to happen anytime soon, is it?
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I just think they're close friends...
i dont think they kissed, did they?
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| LarryRocks4 wrote: | I just think they're close friends...
i dont think they kissed, did they? |
No. They didn't.
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| The Wakka Man wrote: | | LarryRocks4 wrote: | I just think they're close friends...
i dont think they kissed, did they? |
No. They didn't. |
And if I get my way, they never will...at least in the animated universe. ^_^'
No offence BB/Rae fans.
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